The Interesting Case of Dragon Age II

A long time ago, I wrote about how sometimes good stories and even innovative mechanics can be overshadowed by boring gameplay. I mentioned that I would turn that lens onto Dragon Age II, as well. So here we are, about to discuss the merits and failings of this five-year old game. I suppose this is also going to be a bit of an apology letter, too, for all the times I unfairly hated the game and wrote it off due to its flaws.

Fair warning: I’ll be talking about the Dragon Age series, so beware spoilers for Dragon Age: Origins and Dragon Age II. Don’t worry, Dragon Age: Inquisition will be under scrutiny at a later date!

This is what I look like when I’m scrutinizing a game.

First, a little perspective. Dragon Age: Origins was released in 2009 after a seven-year development period, and after the success of the original Mass Effect in 2007. Following the acclaimed released of these original games, BioWare began work on sequels, with Mass Effect 2 being released in 2010 and Dragon Age II in 2011.

However, development for the Mass Effect sequel began in earnest in 2008, whereas Dragon Age II had the ambitious development schedule of one year. For those of you who have played both series, certain aspects of Mass Effect were held over from one game to the next, whereas Dragon Age II (DAII) recycled virtually nothing from Dragon Age: Origins (DAO).

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Except the color scheme of the cover.

With a shorter production time than DAO and a push to create all new content (again, unlike ME2, which had some holdover from the original game), the race was on to finish the second Dragon Age game. In addition, DAII was meant to respond to criticisms of DAO, particularly what some called the “slow” or “clunky” combat – which actually had “dice roll” mechanics functioning behind the scenes in a Dungeons & Dragons-esque fashion. At any rate, the combat was streamlined and made much faster than in the original title.

Considering actual development took a little less than a year, it’s remarkable that the game functions as well as it does. BioWare certainly pulled off some wizardry in order to bring the world of Kirkwall into existence.

That Was Then…

When I first played this game, I was disappointed at the best of times and angry at the worst of them. The careful combat system that I had begun to master (sort of) in DAO was gone. Now I had to hack ‘n’ slash my way through wave after wave of enemies, and often these enemies would respawn without good in-game reasons and in the most random of places during a battle (for example: kill a baddie, turn around, then new baddie spawns over old baddie and sucker-stabs Hawke). The clearly-different game areas of DAO were now copy/pastes of the same dungeons, underground caverns, shorelines, and basements over and over and over again, to the point of distraction.

…And to the point of me legitimately wondering if I had been here before, when I clearly knew I had entered a new area.

And on a more personal note, I hated how ugly they made the elves. I read a nice fan theory that tried to explain this away, but the unfortunate thing is… well…

Yes, this is the same character across the two games. Seriously, BioWare?

The game was, in my opinion, sloppily done. Its short production time clearly showed in the gameplay, and my beloved BioWare delivered a sub-par experience that made me want my Warden from DAO to show up and just fix it.

Not really, but you know what I mean.

…And This is Now

Like the story in Remember Me (linked again here), all the good things in Dragon Age II  were grossly overshadowed by everything going wrong.

First, the scope and scale of the game was fantastically done. At the end of DAO, our Grey Warden had successfully united a country on the brink of civil war, defeated an archdemon containing the spirit of an ancient magister, and either died a hero or rode off into the sunset with Leliana became Commander of the Grey in Ferelden.


How do you start a sequel after that? No, seriously. You saved the world. How do you top that?

The short answer is: you don’t. While I’m not up on my deckbuilding the way BadgersAndBowties is, I am aware of something called “power creep,” during which new content slowly outstrips the power of the old/original content, prompting an increase in power across the game. This cycle continues, which eventually can harm gameplay if not controlled (for a variety of reasons outside the scope of this article). But from a story perspective, this type of creeping can ruin the story, as each increasingly grand tale becomes more wild, unrealistic, and, eventually, hokey.

For instance, when the menu screen ends in an explosion, you know you’re in for it.

So DAII did something drastic, insane, and amazing. They took a complicated world state with so many complex issues bubbling beneath the surface and focused in on one person trying to make a living in one city during this very unstable time.

Compare and Contrast

It’s really hard to compare the first two games in the Dragon Age series, because they are so starkly different. DAO presents unique backstories from which the PC character can hail. The game offers a great deal of freedom in how you can build your character, resulting on one of my Wardens being a high-leveled rogue who was also able to wear heavy armor and dual-wield two longswords.

The story of your Grey Warden feels open, with up to five or six lines of dialogue to choose from at each interaction that created a real sense of crafting your character through small deviations in dialogue. As part of the well-developed story, the characters offered may opportunities for you to talk to them, and you could talk to them anywhere, like real people.

Because nothing says “Job well done” like telling a story immediately after killing darkspawn.

DAII, however, gives you one backstory to play with. Although the story is interesting in theory, it isn’t ever really fleshed out well (more on that in a bit). The gameplay was much more scripted insofar as you can only speak with your companions in designated areas, and the dialogue wheel only offered small snippets of phrases that left you guessing as to what Hawke was actually going to say. And there were only three of them (due to voice-acting constraints, I suppose). Jarringly (to some DAO fans), combat also moved away from tactic-driven to action-driven combat, and the leveling system was more streamlined and almost constricting in some ways.

So right out of the gate, the games were incredibly different. But let’s start with some of the strengths DAII brings to the table.

Just the Facts, Hawke

The overall story was solid. Across three acts, the player/Hawke was introduced to just a superficial taste of the unrest in Thedas, as if the game was saying, “This is important, and it’s affecting your life, but you’re not going to be the hero who fixes it.”


Sure, I wished some things were expanded upon. I wish the mage/templar conflict had been more overtly present across the three acts, and that every single apostate wasn’t a crazy, murderous blood-mage. Yes, I wished we had spent more time with Hawke’s sibling, instead of glossing over a whole year in Kirkwall that elevated Hawke from street rat to someone the entire city knew.

The game does a great job with bringing the scope of the Dragon Age universe down in order to illustrate one small slice of a huge problem that was beginning to shake the entire continent. Like I mentioned, after the huge quest presented in Dragon Age: Origins, there needed to be a story to “reset” the series in order for it to grow again.

However, knowing that the “main” conflict was the mage/templar conflict, BioWare could have presented the conflict a little more clearly, instead of leading the player to believe that the treasure hunt was the main conflict… no wait, it’s the arishok and his qunari wanting to invade Kirkwall… no wait…

Are You a Witch or a Warrior?

Oh boy! More choices! More grey areas to explore! More reasons to play through the game twice to see what the different choices change!

So this might be a slight rant, but the choice at the end of the game was not presented in an even-handed way. While both the mages and templars verbally provide ample evidence as to why you should support their cause, every single mage outside of the Circle’s control was not only a blood mage, but a murderer (even Merrill, in her own sweet and misguided way).


Apparently, mages can’t quite figure out how to handle themselves without the policing of the templar.

Yes, yes. Some argue that the mages were so oppressed that they had no choice but to turn to blood magic. Yes, I’ll agree with that. But were they so oppressed that they had to start murdering innocent people who hadn’t oppressed them? Did they all really need to be so power hungry and/or crazy?

Also, right before your final choice, a blood mage kidnaps Hawke’s mother, murders her, and stitches her head onto another woman’s body before reanimating the Frankenstein’s-monster-esque creature before Hawke’s eyes.

As if that wasn’t bad enough, Hawke then needs to re-kill her mother because the blood mage controls Zombie Mom now and ordered her to attack.

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So… do you want to support the mages in their fight against the templar, Hawke?


How does anyone seriously support the mages after that? Seriously, if you did, please tell me in the comments. This was an incredibly unbalanced choice and skirted the lovely grey area that was captured so beautifully in Dragon Age: Inquisition. I’m still not sure if the devs did that on purpose, because it’s not a secret that the “canon” ending is Hawke siding with the templars, but the entire argument of “mage vs. templar” was completely unbalanced. I liked the balanced choices at the end of Mass Effect 3 better than I liked the “balanced choices” at the end of Dragon Age II. But I digress.

All the Fuss

To be fair, BioWare tried to respond to the criticism from Dragon Age: Origins, from quickening combat to streamlining the leveling system, and pulled off a remarkably playable game considering the time constraints on them . And folks who played Dragon Age II before playing Dragon Age: Origins tend to love it, which makes me wonder if the folks who played Dragon Age: Origins first just wanted more Dragon Age: Origins – a more nuanced game, to be sure. So DAII’s failure to live up to that expectation, coupled with the mechanical flaws, resulted in the game winding up being panned by fans of the series.

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Was it a “good” game? It depends what you mean by “good.” I played it through, grumbling, but I wanted to finish it for the sake of the story (like Remember Me). And the characters stuck with me long after I finished playing, and even prompted a second playthrough so I could try different things and get to know them better. My dislike of DAII reminds me of my distaste for The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword. I loved Twilight Princess, and simply wanted more of it when Skyward Sword came out. When Skyward Sword was so drastically different, I was disappointed and missed some of the really amazing features that the game has, in favor of grousing about its flaws. And so it was with Dragon Age. Dragon Age: Origins is arguably one of my favorite games (if not my favorite game), so when I saw another Dragon Age title, I fell right into the same hole that I did with Twilight Princess.

Bottom Line

So… was Dragon Age II objectively bad, or just not what the fans wanted or expected? Sure it had its flaws, and some were glaring, but if you played it without having another game in the series to compare it to, perhaps its flaws are forgivable. I’m not sure. What I do know is that it probably isn’t the awful game I originally found it to be.

Perhaps it’s the awkward child of the Dragon Age family, but like all BioWare games, it presented interesting characters and a fascinating story, even if it could have benefited from a few storytelling tweaks. Either way, it brought the series down to a more personal and human level (compared to the superhuman level Dragon Age: Origins ended on), which I think was a much needed reset for the series. While it will never be my favorite of the series, I think Dragon Age II deserves a bit of an apology, at least from me. At the very least, it’s a game worth playing.

What do you think? Why does Dragon Age: Origins garner such praise and Dragon Age II so much hatred? Is it deserved? Let me know in the comments.

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~ Athena

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  1. It’s a difficult one. If this game came out without being attached to a previous property it probably wouldn’t have had this backlash from players. It certainly wasn’t a bad game, I actually enjoyed it quite a bit.

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  2. I think what disappointed me most about DAII was that it felt to me like too many corners were cut in its creation. The game looked like it was Mass Effect 2 with a fantasy reskin, areas in the game recycled assets far to often and apart from a cameo or two it didn’t feel tied much to the original world. I did like the switch to a different character and potentially more personal story but it’s unfortunately not that memorable either.

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    1. I thought that the game felt rushed, as well. I actually never did a comparison between Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2 (ME2 is probably my favorite of the series, story-wise), but that’s an interesting comparison. I wonder if “loosely” tying the games together is for the purposes of not turning off new players (making them feel like the missed something important), but of course that runs the risk of irritating the fan base that already exists.

      Poor Hawke. I remember Varric in Inquisition saying (if Hawke died) that he wished, for once, that Hawke hadn’t been the one to draw the short end of the stick… Seems like it was fate from the beginning!

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  3. I skimmed your great post since I haven’t played Origins yet, and want to some year. So it seems I love another game everyone else hates… What’s wrong with me!? I guess I just have horrible taste in video games. 🙂

    I really enjoyed DA:II and played through it 3 times to see everything. This was also my first Dragon Age game, so maybe my misguided liking of this title is for that reason. I loved the character interactions, it had a Captain Janeway voiced Dragon, and an intriguing story with lots of conflicts. The picture of Hawke’s Zombie Mom triggered many disturbing memories… That was so damn horrifying!

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    1. Not horrible taste, maybe you just take games as they are without preconceived notions!!

      I wouldn’t say that I hate the game, either. And of course the characters were great!! The banter between party members was always interesting, and the story concept(s) were interesting. I did like the reduction in scale, as I mentioned. But some of the changes just irked me… Paired with the jarring changes, I may have judging it unfairly at the time!

      And yes, I was so upset with Hawke’s mom was taken, and then absolutely horrified when I saw what happened!!

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  4. I think the only reason I ended up siding with the mages is because Hawke’s sister (if you play as a man) is a mage. My interest was in freeing her at nearly any cost because of the way that they are treated. Interestingly, I remember Hawke’s sister actually being sympathetic to the templars at one point. However, it’s been years since I played DAII, though I may need to mend that soon.

    Thanks! I needed inspiration to replay a game… 😛

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    1. Glad to help! I played through as a rogue, and romanced Merrill, so I definitely felt a little bad siding with the templars as I did think I was siding with Bethany’s “captors.” But Zombie Mom really pushed it over the edge… sigh. That was probably the hardest “role-play” decision for me, because I’m usually pretty sympathetic toward the mages in any other situation. My friend BadgersAndBowties also sided with the mages, for similar reasons as yours, if I remember right.

      And you’re welcome! 🙂 I started a third play-through last year, and now I want to go back and finish that one, as well. See how much my feelings have changed!

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      1. I can understand the moral disconnect with the mages honestly. Like I said though, with the influence of the family member removed, I’d totally side with the templars.

        I need to play through as a sword and board warrior this time. I’ve done a mage, rogue, and two-hand warrior already.

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  5. I have to admit I enjoyed Dragon Age: Origins way more than I enjoyed Dragon Age II.
    I’m almost certain I expected more from Dragon Age II because of how good the first one was – it was the best RPG I played at the time and is still one of my all-time favourites to this date – however, like someone has mentioned before; if it wasn’t attached to the first one I’d probably “cut it some slack”.

    It’s also the only Dragon Age game I’ve played through only once, and as a warrior.

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    1. Yes DAII has definitely had fewer hours sunk into it than the others in the series. I’ve been enjoying reading the comments, though, because the folks who played it first seem to have had a much different experience! Thanks for your comment!

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    1. Yeah… poor Zevran… sigh… Because two elves (Merrill and Fenris) in the game are almost decent-looking, the fan theory was that because Varric was telling the story – and dwarves (unlike humans) don’t think that elves are particularly attractive – Varric made his two elf friends look “better” than the other elves when he was telling his story. A nice attempt to make it better, but… yeah.

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  6. I’ll take that on. I still supported the mages after that. I didn’t believe that I should let the actions of a single extremist, evil as they were, color the way I treated what I believed to be an otherwise mostly innocent group. I separated out the evil mages from the good in my mind. I was wrong, absolutely, because as it turns out, every single non-party member mage, and some of the party members, even, is an absolutely evil murderer and the racists are totally right in this story, but acting on the information I had, I felt justified in that choice. I was a mage, too, so not all of them could be evil, right?

    Man, Dragon Age II. I’ve found that I enjoy it a bit more on the replays, now that I know what it is and how far to lower my expectations of it, but what a freakin’ flawed game. It does have it’s high points. I remember having an absolutely beautiful moment in having to cast my boyfriend, who I had been very loving to up to that moment, out when his fanaticism just got to be way too much for me, and there’s some other very memorable bits in there as well for me, that it’s worth going through just to see again. But it’s not always fun getting there. This should have been a better game. And that might be the most painful spot of all.

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    1. I do agree with you that the actions of one person should not color your idea of a whole group of people. It was the hardest role-play decision I ever had to make, because my Hawke had been pretty well-balanced through the whole game. I don’t believe all the mages were evil; the ones you meet in the Gallows are all nice folks. Even Bethany sees the issues from both sides.

      I’ve picked up my third playthrough again and my temper seems to have cooled quite a bit, insofar as I’m enjoying myself a bit more than I did the first few times. But the story certainly has its beautifully emotional points. And you’re absolutely correct that the worst tragedy of all is that Dragon Age 2 *could* have been a better game if it hadn’t been so rushed.

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  7. Your summary of the game is interesting. I have never played it, but I am aware of the criticism.

    I found DA:O difficult to get into. I found combat difficult and unsatisfying. So I never got that far in it.

    From what you say, DA2 does seem to push you into supporting the Templars, which is unfortunate. It seems that a Hawke would have to have personal reasons (LI or family) to support the mages. While the objective moral choice seems to support the Templars.

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    1. DAII was a bit rushed, so I think some of the nuances got lost. I understand about Dragon Age: Origins. It actually had a dice-roll mechanic behind it, so the combat (whether you hit/how much damage) was influenced by your stats and a “roll of the dice,” like in D&D. I found it frustrating at first, as well, but it made more sense when I knew what was actually going on. But a lot of people didn’t like the combat, which is what resulted in DAII’s combat system!

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